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Forward Guidance
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The laws of macro investing are being re-written, and investors who fail to adapt to the rapidly changing monetary environment will struggle to keep pace. Jack Farley interviews the brightest minds in finance about which asset classes they think will thrive in the financial future that they envision.
The Only Assets That Beat Fiat Debasement | Raoul Pal & Julien Bittel

In this episode, Raoul Pal and Julien Bittel explain their “Everything Code” framework showing how global debt cycles, demographics, and liquidity drive all asset prices. They argue fiat debasement is running at ~8% annually, meaning only tech stocks and crypto have outperformed over time, while gold just preserves purchasing power. They discuss the societal and economic implications of AI replacing human labor, the end of traditional recessions, why liquidity will keep increasing to roll debts, and how this cycle could mirror or exceed 2017’s asset booms. Enjoy!


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Timestamps:


(00:00) Introduction


(01:54) Big Macro Picture


(10:37) Liquidity & Real Returns


(14:32) Aptos Ad


(15:18) What is the Endgame?


(17:51) The Everything Code


(25:10) Financial Conditions


(31:39) 2017 on Steroids


(35:57) Aptos Ad


(36:54) Nothing Stops This Train


(38:34) Removing Recession Risk


(44:24) Immigration


(46:38) All Jobs Are Gone


(52:08) What Happens Next?


(54:50) Resurgence of Religion


(58:12) When Banana Zone?


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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Forward Guidance is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.




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1时10分32秒 2025-07-09
All Roads Lead To Debasement | Weekly Roundup

This week, we dive into the latest jobs and unemployment data surprises, the hidden role of immigration in labor force changes, and why both political parties are terrible. We also dig into the looming deficit and treasury issuance implications, the EM-ification of the US, the symptoms of a failed system, and the inevitability of currency debasement. Enjoy!



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Echo Protocol is the first Bitcoin liquid re-staking and yield layer on MoveVM. As the second-largest protocol on Aptos by TVL, Echo secures nearly half of the network’s bridged assets with ~$270M in aBTC minted. https://www.echo-protocol.xyz/





Timestamps:


(00:00) Cold Open


(04:00) Bullish NFP?


(08:25) Ads (Aptos)


(11:12) Anti-Immigration Impact


(17:32) Wage Growth, Yields & Controlled Demolition


(21:22) BBB Passed, Now What?


(26:40) Ads (Aptos)


(27:32) Both Sides Are Terrible


(34:32) High-Yield Credit


(37:17) Get Out on the Risk Spectrum


(39:52) Active Treasury Issuance Greater Than QE


(41:37) The Problem is Getting Worse


(44:12) All Roads Lead to Debasement


(46:58) Crushing Global Labor


(48:52) DXY & the End of Central Banking


(51:47) EM-ification of the US


(54:12) MSTR & BTC Volatility


(58:44) Seasonality, Leverage & Momentum


(01:01:32) Symptoms of a Failed System


(01:08:50) Buying vs Renting


(01:13:28) Final Thoughts



Disclaimer: Nothing said on Forward Guidance is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.




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1时13分24秒 2025-07-04
Unpacking The Crypto Treasury Meta

In this live panel from Permissionless IV, we unpack the rapid rise of token acquisition vehicles like MicroStrategy and Defi Dev Corp. We explore why institutions are using these vehicles to accumulate crypto faster, analyze premium-to-NAV dynamics, discuss the evolution from equity issuance to innovative debt structures like converts and moving strike warrants, and debate sustainability risks if NAV premiums collapse. Enjoy!


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Timestamps:


(00:00) Introduction


(01:05) The Rise of Crypto Treasury Companies


(07:45) What Catalyzed this Trend?


(08:27) Ledger Ad


(09:24) What Catalyzed this Trend?


(14:17) Unpacking the Capital Structure


(20:26) Risks to Crypto Treasury Companies


(22:06) Ledger Ad


(23:00) Risks to Crypto Treasury Companies


(30:53) Asset Unwind Risk


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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Forward Guidance is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.




#Macro #Investing #Crypto #Markets #ForwardGuidance



35分10秒 2025-07-04
Bringing The Long Tail Of Markets Onchain

In this panel live from Permissionless IV, we discuss what TradFi can learn from crypto, from instant settlement and transparent markets to permissionless synthetic dollars and on-chain leveraged trading. We cover stablecoin demand dynamics, the future of tokenized structured products, how perps outperform options for retail, the practical limits of decentralization, and more. Enjoy!


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Timestamps:


(00:00) Introduction


(03:23) What can TradFi Learn from Crypto?


(10:14) Is Decentralization Important?


(10:53) Ledger Ad


(11:43) Is Decentralization Important?


(17:23) Bringing TradFi Onchain


(22:35) Ledger Ad


(23:29) Bringing TradFi Onchain


(26:32) Stablecoins & The GENIUS Act


(30:57) Most Optimistic Innovations


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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Forward Guidance is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.




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36分23秒 2025-07-02
The Stablecoin Future, Macro Moves & Big Tech Embracing Crypto | Permissionless IV Recap

In this special bonus episode, we dive into the takeaways from Permissionless IV, unpacking the biggest industry narratives and themes shaping crypto today. We discuss the future of stablecoins, give a candid macro outlook, and explore how Big Tech is positioning itself as the next crypto overlord. Finally, we reflect on some predictions we got wrong – and what we learned from them. Enjoy!



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Timestamps:


00:00 Intro


00:57 Permissionless IV Takeaways


07:00 Biggest Industry Narratives


12:00 Future of Stablecoins


17:44 Macro Outlook


20:47 Big Tech Overlords


28:38 Predictions We Got Wrong



Disclaimer: Nothing said on Forward Guidance is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.




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33分57秒 2025-06-30
The Fed’s New Mandate Is Financing The Deficit | Weekly Roundup

In this live Forward Guidance Roundup, we discuss geopolitics and the “peace dividend” theory from Pippa Malmgren, potential Fed regime shifts toward fiscal dominance, Trump’s pressure on FOMC board members, and the effects of tariffs and buybacks on equities. We also explore the implications of a weakening dollar, capital flows out of the U.S., and how AI and crypto could reshape wealth creation and ownership in the coming decade. Enjoy!



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Echo Protocol is the first Bitcoin liquid re-staking and yield layer on MoveVM. As the second-largest protocol on Aptos by TVL, Echo secures nearly half of the network’s bridged assets with ~$270M in aBTC minted. https://www.echo-protocol.xyz/



Timestamps:


00:00 Intro


01:10 Geopolitical Framework


05:00 Biggest Story in Markets


08:22 Flows vs Fundamentals


13:33 Moving Toward Fiscal Dominance


16:39 Housing, Labor, & the Wealth Gap


20:12 The Dollar Decline & RoW Assets


27:15 Investing in the RIght Themes


30:02 Potential Currency Accord


34:31 Tariffs, AI, & Labor



Disclaimer: Nothing said on Forward Guidance is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.




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43分13秒 2025-06-27
DeFi Lending Will Eat Wall Street By 2030 | Sidney Powell

In this special episode recorded live at Permissionless IV, Maple Finance CEO Sid Powell unpacks the rise, fall, and rebuild of crypto lending. He discusses navigating the 2022 crypto credit collapse, the trade-offs between fixed and variable lending, why traditional institutions are finally entering DeFi, and how composability, transparency, and tokenized credit products are reshaping global finance. Sid also shares Maple’s shift toward overcollateralized lending, BTC-based yield products, and the future of structured on-chain credit. Enjoy!


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Ledger, the world leader in digital asset security for consumers and enterprises, proudly sponsors Forward Guidance, where traditional finance meets crypto. As Ledger celebrates a decade of securing 20% of the world’s crypto assets, it offers a secure gateway for those entering digital finance. Buy a LEDGER device today and protect your assets with top-tier security technology. Buy now on https://Ledger.com.



Timestamps:


(00:00) Introduction


(00:52) Sid Powell's Journey into Crypto


(02:11) The Birth of Maple Finance


(02:51) Challenges and Evolution in Crypto Lending


(07:12) Ledger Ad


(07:12) Challenges and Evolution in Crypto Lending


(08:45) Navigating the 2022 Crypto Crisis


(14:33) Current State of Crypto Lending


(17:21) Biggest Crypto Innovations


(18:32) Ledger Ad


(19:32) Defi Integration and Secondary Markets


(21:01) Creating Counterparty Transparency


(22:52) Transparency and Financial Product Costs


(24:40) Fixed Rate vs Variable Rate Lending in Crypto


(28:21) Future of Crypto Lending and Institutional Interest


(31:16) Structured Products and Treasury Companies


(35:51) Navigating Crypto Market Cycles


(38:25) Final Thoughts


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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Forward Guidance is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.




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38分45秒 2025-06-25
The Fed Is Still Choosing to Be “Late” On Rate Cuts | Weekly Roundup

In this live Roundup episode from the Monetarium 2 conference in DC, we unpack the Fed's hawkish pivot, the growing risk of stagflation, and Powell’s apparent commitment to being “late” with rate cuts. We debate what an SLR exemption means for bond markets, how Treasury issuance and TGA refills could spike yields, and why 2026’s Fed chair pick could upend everything. We also explore global capital flows, the decline of US dollar dominance, and how to navigate a world where almost every asset feels dangerous to own. Enjoy!



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Echo Protocol is the first Bitcoin liquid re-staking and yield layer on MoveVM. As the second-largest protocol on Aptos by TVL, Echo secures nearly half of the network’s bridged assets with ~$270M in aBTC minted. https://www.echo-protocol.xyz/



Timestamps:


(00:00) Introduction


(02:00) FOMC Decision


(09:06) Aptos Ad


(09:50) FOMC Decision


(13:09) Noisy Economic Data


(14:14) SLR Changes


(18:43) TGA Drain & Buildup


(24:50) Long Bond Yields


(25:28) Aptos Ad


(26:21) Long Bond Yields


(29:11) Powell Replacement


(34:38) Fiscal Dominance


(39:58) US Assets vs ROW


(46:12) Dollar Losing Reserve Status?


(51:17) Where to Put Your Money



Disclaimer: Nothing said on Forward Guidance is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.




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55分11秒 2025-06-20
Market Infrastructure Is Being Rebuilt on Blockchain | Vishal Gupta

In this episode of Forward Guidance, Vishal Gupta—former head of USDC at Circle and Coinbase Exchange—joins to discuss his journey from Goldman Sachs to building crypto-native market infrastructure with his new venture, True Markets. He shares how stablecoins are reshaping market plumbing, the growing relevance of perpetual futures vs. options, and what traditional finance can learn from crypto (and vice versa). Enjoy!


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Ledger, the world leader in digital asset security for consumers and enterprises, proudly sponsors Forward Guidance, where traditional finance meets crypto. As Ledger celebrates a decade of securing 20% of the world’s crypto assets, it offers a secure gateway for those entering digital finance. Buy a LEDGER device today and protect your assets with top-tier security technology. Buy now on https://Ledger.com.



Timestamps:


(00:00) Introduction


(01:07) Vishal’s History


(07:06) Most Interesting Crypto Innovations


(10:29) Ledger Ad


(11:21) Stablecoin Adoption & Fragmentation


(20:36) Evolution of Crypto Options & Exchanges


(27:15) Ledger Ad


(28:07) Bringing Exotic Assets Onchain


(30:37) Innovating Market Infrastructure


(37:14) Permissionless IV


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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Forward Guidance is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.



37分49秒 2025-06-18
Empire | Introducing the Token Transparency Framework

In this special episode from the Empire podcast, Blockworks unveils its new Token Transparency framework—an initiative designed to close the information gap and bring much-needed clarity to the crypto space. Dan Smith, Head of Data at Blockworks, explains how this framework will reshape how token projects operate and why transparency is the key to crypto’s future. Enjoy!



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Timestamps:


00:00 Token Transparency


02:25 The Token Market & Lemons


11:40 Equity vs Token Risk


14:18 Structural Token Issues


17:12 How Did We Get Here?


22:57 Token Horror Stories


31:50 Token Launches


56:50 Best Case Scenario


01:02:38 Impact On Token Prices



Disclaimer: Nothing said on Supply Shock is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.


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1时09分13秒 2025-06-18
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